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Ripcurler Introductory Contributor
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:55 pm Post subject: Celeste iv rebuild |
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I'm hoping someone can help me. I have a pristine pair of Celeste iv except the voice coils on both tweeters are open circuit. Careful disassembly and inspection with a loupe shows that the wire is broken on the voice coil itself. The tweeters look identical to the t33-a sp1074 but have a plain white kef label with the numbers 2782. I can't find any info on these anywhere. Assuming that they are the t33 - are replacements diaphragms still available?
If not would the Audax TW025A0 (is there a better match) disassemble and fit the original faceplate?
Any help would be greatly appreciated |
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speakerguru Über Contributor 1000+
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 1192 Location: Green Hut, Tovil
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure the first cloth sock covered Celeste and Concorde (III?) offerings from KEF used the Audax 1" soft dome tweeter. It proved to be unreliable, often going open circuit. I seem to recall the Celeste and Concorde IV used a Panasonic tweeter instead. |
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Ripcurler Introductory Contributor
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean that the tweeters were built by audax to the kef design? I have taken some photos of the tweeters - they look very much like the t33 sp1074. I think the audax had a circular front panel
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Your link just takes me to the Photo Box front page, not your album, so I can't see the pictures. Do I need to have an account to view?
Anyway, I meant the regular round plate Audax. I did not remember KEF having started out using T33s in that model but I'll take your word for it.
History: the Celeste had to be built to hit the £100/pair price point in the shops. This meant buying in the tweeters, having a paper cone B200s made to KEF spec by ELAC (then in North London) and not having veneered cabinets. |
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Ripcurler Introductory Contributor
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Photobucket links work.
That is a KEF T33; probably the SP1074 8 Ohm nominal impedance, 6.6 Ohms d.c. resistance. I'm beginning to forget SP numbers!
Sorry I can help with XO component values. You definitely need to replace the electrolytic capacitors which should all be bipolar types. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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The voice coils in these T33s are not fluid cooled. The new diaphragms have arrived - would you advise using ferro fluid in the rebuild? |
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Ripcurler wrote: | The voice coils in these T33s are not fluid cooled. The new diaphragms have arrived - would you advise using ferro fluid in the rebuild? |
in theory yes, but check with the supplier that the adhesives used in the vc assemblies is compatible with the ferrofluid. |
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