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Upgrades to internal wiring of all speakers..

 
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henryc
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Upgrades to internal wiring of all speakers.. Reply with quote

Hello again!
Can anyone advise on the pros and cons of rewiring
speakers internally?
Suggest the best and most economical type of wire to use?
Thanks
Henry
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a KEF IMP design or an active unit, the wire's L, C & R has already been taken into account.

If you change internal wire you will change the sound due to making a nice new soldered joint with new shiney wire.

I only mess about if I'm rebuilding or changing binding posts and only to the extent of replacing the short lenghts of wire between the input terminals and crossover board with the equivalent of QED 79 strand or whatever from Maplin at £10 for 15 metre 1036 strand.

Why? Well most of the power is dissapated in the crossover so give it the path of least resistance. Having read the chart for various SWG's wrt resistance, I leave the rest alone.

Note to "snake-oil" cable users. QED 79 strand has the maximum mass that a B110 (any varient) terminal will safely take without snapping.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my limited experience, changing the wire will change the sound of the speaker (Colin is - of course - correct). The question is: Would the upgrade be better or worse than the original wiring?

I upgraded the wire in my Tangents from the original really thin wire to a multi strand wire (I forgot the name of it - sorry). IMO it improved the sound. I guess I am a snake oil user. Wink

I understand that 'the best' wire would be from Cardas. But it's not cheap.

Most economical? Why would you do that? Just keep the original wiring intact. It'll probably sound better than the economical replacement wire.

Colin, is the QED 79 an 'internal' hook up wire? Is it all copper or copper / silver or silver? It sounds interesting.....
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
Most Economical .. Some of the so called "snake oil wires " are absolutely ridiculouslty priced and one does not venture into their realm willingly unless it's really worthwhile..
I meant to say" best of kind & Value for money" I am happy to pay good money if its not an unreasonble outlay and good results in return.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary
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is the QED 79 an 'internal' hook up wire?


Can be, it's the copper buck a meter wire, about twice the thickness of lighting flex.

henryc
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Probably that 1036 strand copper stuff Maplin sell to wire up car audio I mentioned. In prettier packaging the equivalent "guage" would be Cable Talk 3.1, Exposure, Linn or Naim or owt else from the old BICC factory in Widnes Shocked .

Sliver wire poses a problem even though Silver Oxide is a conductor. You need a small blow lamp to do "proper" Silver Soldering, so you'll knacker either the speaker, crossover, yourself or your house when the loudspeaker box catches fire Twisted Evil .
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thaks for the info Colin
Will try rewiring and let you know of the resulting changes
as soon as
All the best
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