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greg Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Colin
I suspected that was the way I might have to go. I think we'll have to take the plunge and buy an active crossover. Sorting more amplifier modules isn't a big deal and the price won't be too much higher than good passive components and a couple of stages of development. |
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rhiollyrubgt Intermediate Contributor 25+
Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 30 Location: notts, uk
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Picked a pair of Griffin loudspeakers up at a local market recently. Perfect working order and really good condition aswell. They are small standmounters with what looks to be b110 bass, unknown tweeter and front ported at the top, they are mirror image. They are superbly made speakers that are very heavy for their size.
I will post some photo's soon and am going to list them on ebay in a few weeks if anyone is interested. |
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lexi Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Are they so good that you have decided to keep them? |
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ColinR Über Contributor 1000+
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1175 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Are they so good that you have decided to keep them? |
Nah, he's another sad ePrey pimp using this site as a cheap source of information and for free marketing purposes.
Note the lack of the offer sell the speakers privately in the appropriate section of this forum.
That's why I didn't tell him the tweeter was a Coles CE 3000 .
He does not have any interest in KEF loudspeakers , he's got £45.50 instead. _________________ This post or any other information supplied to this website or any other by myself is not available for any form of commercial purpose i.e. to hi-fi magazines or as sales and marketing material for sleezeBay or Audiodogging pimps and the like. |
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lexi Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Oh well! (Fleetwood Mac)that is the internet!. I have bought a pair of Griffin Speakers untested . Will have a play with them. They may be model 450 or 470 but we will see. I heard those big Griffin in early 80S they were :
1/........expensive
2/.........sonically tasty |
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lexi Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well I got the speakers and on opening them up was disappointed to find that they are not KEF units after all . We have an SEAS 8" Bass unit and a cone tweeter...must be pretty old.
The good news is they work perfectliy and have a nice neutral sound with no real weaknesses. Played some Dave Brubeck on Vinyl and these lil things are perfect for that in my smallish room. Nice bass and midrange with a treble that wasn`t too bright or forward. They don`t quite have the weight on the drum kit that Big Tannoys have but were very capable and realistic enough.
Cabinet seems to be a sealed enclosure with the two units set on the baffle then covered with grill fabic. This then gets attached tto the rear baffle via a long rod and a nut . The crossover is Heath Robinson in that it is a square section of ply with brass nails and evreything hardwired onto them. This then screws over the top of the tweeter with a damping pad between them........aint seen that before. Is it to damp the tweeter? Here`s a pic. Any comments appreciated.
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lexi Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Come on Speaker Guru and Colin.........give us a comment after 3wks . These are keepers for room system. |
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speakerguru Über Contributor 1000+
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 1192 Location: Green Hut, Tovil
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: |
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looking at that crossover in the picture, I'm speechless LOL |
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lexi Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I spoke to another guy and he had a set of these. His crossover looked the same. So looks as though Griffin put them out like that. Do you think they were in a hurry and running short of stuff |
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rhiollyrubgt Intermediate Contributor 25+
Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 30 Location: notts, uk
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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[/quote]Nah, he's another sad ePrey pimp using this site as a cheap source of information and for free marketing purposes.
Note the lack of the offer sell the speakers privately in the appropriate section of this forum.
That's why I didn't tell him the tweeter was a Coles CE 3000 .
He does not have any interest in KEF loudspeakers , he's got £45.50 instead.[/quote]
Not at all, i own a pair of 107's, q15's and Cara's, it's just that i had bought them very cheap (£5) and had no room for them. No need to be so nasty! |
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2ndhandhifi Introductory Contributor
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="lexi"]Well I got the speakers and on opening them up was disappointed to find that they are not KEF units after all . We have an SEAS 8" Bass unit and a cone tweeter...must be pretty old.
The good news is they work perfectliy and have a nice neutral sound with no real weaknesses. Played some Dave Brubeck on Vinyl and these lil things are perfect for that in my smallish room. Nice bass and midrange with a treble that wasn`t too bright or forward. They don`t quite have the weight on the drum kit that Big Tannoys have but were very capable and realistic enough.
Cabinet seems to be a sealed enclosure with the two units set on the baffle then covered with grill fabic. This then gets attached tto the rear baffle via a long rod and a nut . The crossover is Heath Robinson in that it is a square section of ply with brass nails and evreything hardwired onto them. This then screws over the top of the tweeter with a damping pad between them........aint seen that before. Is it to damp the tweeter? Here`s a pic. Any comments appreciated.
That's a Pheonix. Almost the last thing they did and from memory some kind of What HiFi award winner. The're was a Super Phoenix after that which ended up being flogged ioff by Richers - presumable after they went under.
I have two pairs myself - neither have the model number on the tweeter. One clearly the original has no number - the other pair has replacements. if anone knows what it is I'd like to her from them. Cant comment on the crossovers as its ages since I looked inside mine.
I also have 4 other models, plus a turntable and an amp - neither are the same as the ones shown here.
Dont know if this is the right time/section to ask, but anyone who has Griffin stuff for sale - please contact me. Moderate if necessary! Would love to swap info with anyone daft enough... |
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proffski Über Contributor 1000+
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 1297 Location: Tewkesbury UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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speakerguru wrote: | looking at that crossover in the picture, I'm speechless LOL |
Was it the mutually coupled inductors or something else which rocked your senses? _________________ I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a
man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-Winston Churchill |
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speakerguru Über Contributor 1000+
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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In short; yes . Without putting one on top of the other, they couldn't be much closer could they? But I expect the position and values were very carefully determined by experimental listening .
I remember one "high end" Japanese "engineer" winding and unwinding crossover inductors from behind a loudspeaker while "listening" to the sound from the front (of the loudspeaker) with the aid of a large mirror.................. |
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lexi Junior Contributor 10+
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Just coming back on my speakerS.....still in the family
My Son uses them with a Nad3020 amp I gave him. They are very nice for listening to music rather than HI-FI |
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proffski Über Contributor 1000+
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 1297 Location: Tewkesbury UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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lexi wrote: | Just coming back on my speakerS.....still in the family
My Son uses them with a Nad3020 amp I gave him. They are very nice for listening to music rather than HI-FI |
Nice old rhetoric, sadly you need Hi-Fi in order to let the music out, and the better the Hi-Fi the more music seems to escape.
Hence Hi-Fi or reproduction of sound that is faithful to the original performance... Simples _________________ I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a
man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-Winston Churchill |
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