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golanr · Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:03 am Post subject:

Richie,
Next time you are in St. Louis, Missouri, feel free to stop by for a demo of my system with all possible combinations.

proffski · Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:43 am Post subject:

Richie · Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject:

Thats quite a spread of gear you have/had Proffie, I'm sure you have some favourites amongst them Smile

Thanks for the invite Golanr, next time I'm in the U S Obama I'll drop in Smile

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proffski · Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject:

Richie · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject:

Proffi I see you had some IMF TLS50's, there is a pair on flea-bay now that I fancy, a mk 2 version, are they as good as leg-end has it ?
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proffski · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject:

rx7rotary · Intermediate Contributor 50+ Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 59

Deffinitly a brilliant speaker tls50, never owned but managed to listen , many times...

i own tls80 and imf domestic monitors, which are a lot bigger again, and are my favorite speaker of all my collection.

It is the only speaker that I feel is not reproducing a coloured sound. Very linear characteristics in my opinion.

Mark

Richie · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject:

proffski · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject:

For that go for a well designed and large I.B. enclosure.

Do not get me wrong, I have heard some mind blowing "TLs" and the current PMC range are a prime example.

For reflex the ATC range and Spendor seem to break the laws of physics. But as I have mentioned on here in the past, the best bass if not necessarily the deepest came from the B&W DM70s!
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golanr · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:42 am Post subject:

proffski,
Thanks to your tip, I went ahead and bought today the SAINT-SAENS: Symphony No. 3 / Le Rouet d'Omphale by Czech Radio Symphony Orchestra (Bratislava).

I have new admiration for my KEF C80/Klipsch combination, those are some tough Organ parts there.

I am glad I am part of this community Very Happy

proffski · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject:

The venue is all important as the acoustic signature for organ needs to have a longer delay than for other instruments.
The best recording I have is on LP and was sold on the cheap MFP label!

I have recordings of huge organs in small buildings and they sound poor.

The sonority of the organ is preserved with long reverb time which decays away slowly.

Some recordings used an organ at different venue to the orchestra with the two linked by radio.

Anyway, I congratulate you on finding a recording 1st time which pleased you, a rare find! Smile

If you really want to plumb the depths of the C80s please try...
Boëllmann. Suite Gothique Op. 25: Introduction-Choral, Menuet and Toccata.
It is the Toccata you want, very satanic and you almost expect Beelzebub himself to appear at the organ.
My best recording is on an old Philips transcription.
If only all organs had 64 foot pipes!!! Shocked

Needs a big organ ina big venue and a class organist.
Organs need to breathe just like TLs, shed recordings do not do justice.
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audiolabtower · VIP Contributor 500+ Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 686

My favourite recording of Saint Saens 3 is the old Decca by Charles Dutoit and the Montreal Symphony from 1982, the organ impact on this is second to none, all within a very realistic and natural acoustic space. I believe Deccas of this era were done on a few channels and mixed down to stereo perfectly, missing all the phase problems with large close-multi-miked recordings created in the mixer with added electronic reverb, thus giving a wonderfully natural stereo image.
Second choice is between original DG Berlin Philharmonic/James Levine from 1986 which got the best artistic reviews (fabulous playing in the fast sections) and the DG Orchestre de l'Opera Bastille/Myung-Whun Chung from 1991, one of their 4D recordings with A/D converters direct at the microphones, (with organ of Notre Dame). I also have the Chandos Ulster Orchestra/Yan pascal Tortelier with the famous Gillian Weir playing the organ, this is quite bright in the Chandos fashion but with low fatigue. I have no idea which versions are still available now Sad

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Richie · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject:

golanr · Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:39 am Post subject:

Well, I am happy to report an interesting happy ending.
Following a purchase of a pair of 105.2, the C80 moved upstairs to the living room. (Without the Subwoofer)
Room is much bigger, with vaulted ceiling and the C80 are in the corners.

Amazingly, the bass which was gone in the other room, came back. Deep, round and perfect. The mid is still very pronounced, but it does not bother the ear anymore as the balance between the elements is perfect. Patricia Barber and Eva Cassidy never sounded better.